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Bald Bryan’s Shrinkage

The Adam Carolla Show’s Bryan Bishop writes a bestselling memoir about his battle with a brain tumor – where shrinkage is actually a good thing.

Bryan Bishop, the cast member known to millions of Adam Carolla podcast fans as “Bald Bryan,” has written a memoir about life with an inoperable brain tumor. The book, called Shrinkage: Manhood, Marriage and the Tumor That Tried To Kill Me, refers to the procedure that would reduce the tumor’s threat while Bryan upped the stakes on his life, both personal and professional.

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His relationship with Adam goes back a ways — Bryan was a call screener for the classic Loveline radio show, hosted by Adam and Dr. Drew Pinsky, pre-digital age. He currently keeps the conversation going with Adam on the groundbreaking, record-breaking podcast (along with Alison Rosen, pictured below with Bishop and Carolla). He’s got a quick wit, a thing for movies (he’s often featured in a film review segment on the podcast called “Hooray For Baldywood”), and a love for sports, especially fantasy football. You also may have seen him on TV, when he won $100,000 on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.

In 2009, during one of Adam’s podcasts, Bryan announced the tumor’s arrival. At the time, doctors gave him six months to a year to live, and the naysayers didn’t see much of a future in podcasting. Yet here we are, far into the future, with Bryan thankfully still with us and Adam’s podcast going stronger than ever.

Here, Bryan gives us the details on how a memoir about a tumor can become a New York Times bestseller.

 

New York Times bestseller! Congrats! That’s not easy. Were you surprised that the book was received as well as it was? 

I guess it was a surprise because I’m a first-time author and I have a small amount of notoriety – admittedly small. So of course I was incredibly humbled by the way the book was received.

At the same time, our fans are loyal and extremely enthusiastic. If they find something they believe in, then they are going to support it. They are pretty much 100% genuine. I put as much of myself as I could into this book, and people responded to it.

Yet the book was embraced by people who may not even know what a podcast is. 

Initally the book is supported by fans of the show, or perhaps people who are looking for a cancer recovery memoir. Yet if the book is going to have any long-lasting life or success, it is going to be because people read it and responded to it or have people they know who would get something out of it.

What was it like to write about the process of battling a tumor?

It was very carthartic. At times, it was just emotional, just putting it into words or thinking about it. Yet it helped me put a lot of things into perspective and put a lot of things behind me that need to get put behind me.

I traveled up north to the San Francisco Bay area where my parents live and I interviewed them. That was an emotional time too for all of us, but I’m glad that we did it and I’m glad that we talked about things. It was helpful.

It’s hard to write about yourself or something that happened to you. Talking to friends, co-workers and family about how they were feeling, I certainly learned a lot about that. A lot of it I never knew and I wasn’t privy to. There were a lot of things that people did not want to tell me and didn’t want to burden me with.

Also, in talking to my doctors, I learned a lot about how close it came to being a really bad situation – it was a really bad situation, how close I came to losing the battle. I don’t think I really was aware of that at the time.

How is your health now?

Right now, I’m living with my shrunken tumor. It has shrunk quite a bit from the initial round of treatment. As long as it continues to not grow, I’ll live with it for the rest of my life and it will be something that is there but won’t affect me that much.

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It’s like a diet, trying to lose those last five pounds. I’m trying to get the last 5% of my ability back from before my diagnosis. I do Pilates and go to the gym and I try to stress that. It’s a little-by-little recovery which I’ll always be working on.

All told, you seem to be a pretty optimistic guy. Yeah?

I tend to look at life in a glass-half-full kind of way. I can’t say that I was entirely responsible for my recovery but I think it had a lot to do with the way I recovered like I did.

Your wife, Christie, had much to do with your recovery as well. In what ways?  

I would not be here today if it weren’t for Christie. She was my 24-hour-a-day caregiver during the worst of my treatment. I was doing so poorly that I couldn’t get to the bathroom by myself. She helped me do everything. She helped me get dressed. She helped me dry off after a shower.

She was a 29-year-old woman at the time, responsible for her own life, and she had a fiancé who needed her for everything. She did an incredible job of taking care of me and helping nurse me back to health. And that was just the physical stuff. She was so incredibly emotionally supportive. She’s a strong, strong woman and an amazing person. Anyone who reads the book will tell you that she’s the star of the story.

How about Adam Carolla? How did Adam take the news of your illness? 

To his credit, he was always the same Adam that I always knew. Some people act differently around people who are sick, or cancer patients. Adam was the same old guy, and he wants to make sure that I’m doing well and that I’m taken care of. He’s a great guy and a good boss and a good friend.

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You’re active with The National Brain Tumor Society. How rewarding is that experience?

They have a walk to raise money for brain tumor awareness and research. They asked me if I wanted to be their L.A. chairman for the walk, and I was honored. So many people have been so incredibly good to me while I was going through the worst of it; so much good energy and goodwill. I had an opportunity to pay that back. I jumped at the chance, and I’m now in my third year. I could not be more priviledged and more honored to be a part of it.

What is it about fantasy football that you love? 

I love the social aspect of fantasy football, playing with your friends. And the competiton is fun. I love doing it because it involves a low level of gambling. You put your skills and your smarts to the test. And it’s football – what’s there not to love?

Movies are a big part of your many passions too. 

We’re in the golden age of documentaries so there is always something interesting to watch and always something new coming up. It’s good to share the word and tell people about it.

The prices are a little bit out of hand [today], but from my perspective, I love going to movies. I love the theaters. I love the experience. From my point of view, it’s just getting better and better. Every theater I go to has stadium seating and the sound is better and the picture is better. It’s just an overall better experience.

Adam is currently successfully battling “patent trolls,” who are suing podcasters like Adam and accusing podcasters of stealing technology. How bogus. What’s your take on the case? 

I really do think everything is going to work out. I don’t think they have much of a case.  This is a pretty ridiculous open-and-shut situation. I don’t think they have much of a leg to stand on.

 

Read our interview with The Adam Carolla Show‘s other co-host, Alison Rosen, here!

 

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Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend

Adam Carolla’s awesome sidekick gets her own podcast – and it’s an instant hit.

Keeping up and matching wits with the entertaining hyper vigilance that is Adam Carolla is not a job suited to just anyone. His daily complain-fest (available for free on itunes) is the most downloaded podcast on the planet, and for good reason: it’s funny, it moves fast and it is never, ever boring. That’s thanks to Carolla’s opinionated brilliance, and his willingness to share personal and professional issues (parents, kids, show business, LA, airports, cuisine) with his devoted following of millions of obsessive, devoted Corolladdicts.

Like the boxer he once was, he’s quick on his feet and thinks fast. Between breaths, though, is where Alison Rosen speaks up. She heads Carolla’s news desk (i.e., reading top stories from an ipad). Reporting the news to Carolla is akin to poking a big bear with a stick. You are going to get a reaction, and it’s often unpredictable, dangerous, and so angry it’s funny. She also puts her two cents in when needed, going the twelve rounds with Adam and making it look effortless (it’s not).

“It doesn’t feel brand-new anymore,” she says of her day job, which she’s had since January 2011, “but it does still feel like I’m learning. I feel like I am a big part of the show, and I know that listeners have a relationship with me as well, but I always want to be there to help Adam make the show that he wants to make.”

The California native is immediately likable; smart, funny, knowledgeable and personable, and balances Carolla like 60 milligrams of Cymbalta. But is he really the man we hear on our iphone? Or is he just playing Adam to the tenth power?

“He’s the same guy,” she assures us. “It’s not an artificial version of him. It’s just a more amped-up version of him. [Off the mike], he’s all different percentages of the same dynamic.”

With the immense popularity of The Adam Carolla Showpodcast, it would only be a matter of time before Rosen was awarded her own podcast, called Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend (available for free on itunes). In contrast to Carolla’s show, Rosen’s one-on-one talks with guests get deep fast, sometimes even ditching the funny for the serious (not that it’s not ever seriously funny). The gift Rosen has in spades: getting people to let their guard down and open up, even the most superficial and dark people on earth: comedians. Recent guests, who shed some surprising emotional baggage, included comedians Jeff Dye, Andrew W.K., Bob Galthwait, Mark Maron and Chelsea Peretti (it’s still not too late to hear these joints in the archive). Nothing was off-limits in their chit-chat (which was more chat than chit), from parental issues to sex toys.

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“I have always been very inquisitive and curious about people,” she says. “My tendency, when I am talking to people, is to draw them out. I worked as a journalist for years and I did interviews. So maybe in the course of that, I’ve honed my technique a little more. But people say I am a good listener. And I tend to remember a lot of details about them.”

Part of what charms the snakes out of the basket is her willingness to open up about herself as well, with an unabashed look at her own insecurities and shortcomings, of which she claims there are many (she even features a segment of the show entitled “Is it just me, or everyone?” For example, do you feel pressure to buy the hair products your hair stylist recommends to you?).

“I’m very open with myself,” she says, “and I’m very honest with the things that I struggle with, vulnerabilities or things that confuse me. Because I am that way, I think that it might encourage the guests to be open about what they are struggling with too. I think people can pretty quickly tell from my tone that I like to talk about deep stuff. I’m not judgmental at all, and I think people feel that.”

The show captures a mood, a vibe that couldn’t be matched on terrestrial radio or talk TV, further proving the solid future and increasing logic of podcasting.

“I really think that podcasts have replaced books for a lot of people,” she says, “in the sense that the ideas that you are listening to really get into your head. It’s almost as if these are your own thoughts that you are having, these ideas that are penetrating your brain — as opposed to watching TV or a movie, where you are experiencing it but it is less intimate. It’s the slow unfolding of an idea. It’s just a slower pace and it is more contemplative.”

Her podcast is striking a chord and growing its audience weekly, and Rosen holds the connection together steadfastly.

She says, “Part of the human condition is feeling alone and feeling like a freak. Everyone walks around feeling insecure, feeling like any exchange they just had didn’t go exactly as planned. They could have been smoother; they could have been funnier. But people are so busy pretending that they don’t feel that way or that they shouldn’t feel that way. So that’s what I do on my podcast: that thing that you do that you feel is just you – no, that is everyone. Whatever kind of freak you are, you are much more normal than you realize.”

A friend indeed.

 

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