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Greg Kinnear

“I’m not gonna lie to you, it didn’t grab me,” Greg Kinnear says about his first hear-tell of the concept for the Universal film Flash of Genius (originally called Windshield Wiper Man).

However, after doing his due diligence, Kinnear found the David-versus-Goliath story to be both bigger than life and warmly, genuinely human (much like the actor himself, who, in a little more than a decade, has quietly managed to become a joyous and regular part of America’s moviegoing experience).

Kinnear plays one Bob Kearns, a real-life professor who, in the push-button sixties, invented and patented the intermittent windshield wiper (you heard me).

At first, Kearns is wooed by the intrigued Ford Motor Company, and, in his innocent enthusiasm, is over the moon even before the astronauts. Thinking he hit the happy highway, Kearns prepares himself and his brood for life as large as a Ford Galaxie 500.

Unfortunately, those happy endings only happen in the movies.

Instead, Kearns’ dreams are stalled when Ford decides to go it alone with the wiper, leaving him and his empty pockets out in the pouring rain, patent or no patent.

Although he is constantly being talked into a comfortable financial settlement (by Alan Alda as a crusading attorney and Dermot Mulroney as Kearns’ backer/pal with a groovy sixties hairdo), Kearns desires more than mere money: he wants Ford to admit they stole his idea.

So he makes himself a pain in the ass, a ping in Ford’s powerful engine. Acting as his own counsel, an obsessed Kearns fights the corporate giant – and the legal system – over the course of decades.

His family, who could have lived happily ever after from some sweet settlement money, instead suffers from devastating financial and emotional wreckage, as well as big-time bullying from one of the most powerful companies on Earth.

Sound a little off the beaten path for a principled-man-versus-corporate-greed flick? If so, you may first want to conduct an exit interview with the preview audiences, who were cheering at Kearns’ small (and then larger) victories, and also laughing aloud at the inventor’s inventive methods of defending himself in court.

The crowd cheered up a storm – a storm that could require windshield wipers.

“Anyone who understands patent law will understand the magnitude of what we were up against,” Kinnear says. “There is no drier, more uninteresting kind of law, but at the end of the day, this is really a very small story about a guy and his family and the damage that was done to him.”

Like Silkwood and other films before it, the devil can have his damn details. Here, the real story is in the story. You won’t need to take the LSATs or study engineering templates before you buy a ticket. It’s more heart than brain.

“I was thinking about why I liked it so much,” Kinnear says of Kearns’ tale, “and I kind of felt that many of these ‘Little Guy Takes On the Corporation’ films have big, sweeping, cinematic themes. They tend to deal with these big issues about mercury in the water or nuclear power. Big, big themes. And yet [Flash of Genius] was about a guy who invented a wiper mechanism. Not that that’s not a great invention, but because it’s seems so small potatoes, you have to set that aside. The story can’t really be about wipers. You realize that it’s a battle over principle. He gets [Ford] to acknowledge that what they did was wrong, and it felt like that was worth a lot.”

Needless to say, Ford was not exactly willing to ride shotgun on this trip down Memory Lane.

“Any Ford automobiles in this film were not provided by the Ford Motor Company, I assure you,” Kinnear says. “Listen, I think that Ford is treated fairly in this movie. These guys aren’t walking around in black hats and twirling their mustaches. People are marginalized by corporations all the time. That’s not an unusual story. And when that happens, there is a process. The process for justice, as [Alan Alda’s lawyer character] explains to Kearns, is that you don’t get a tickertape parade and keys to the city. You get a check. That’s how justice is dispensed. The issue in the movie is that they just underestimated this man. They picked the wrong guy. They picked the guy who was not looking for a compromise or a settlement or easy money. He was looking for them to acknowledge what they had done was wrong. Corporations – while they are made up of people to some degree – are really made up of policies. Number one on corporate policies’ lists is ‘we didn’t do anything wrong.’ So that butts up against the one tough son of a bitch they came across, and that spelled misfortune for them.”

Like Kearns, Kinnear’s life and acting career was blazed on a completely different trail. His story you have not heard before. He started out simply enough, being born in Indiana, but his father worked as a career diplomat for the U.S. State Department. This caused his Midwestern family to globetrot.

A self-proclaimed newshound, Kinnear was drawn to the excitement of what was happening in the big world as opposed to what was happening on the big screen. Ironically, one of America’s most popular actors had not grown up with the movies in mind.

“I didn’t go to the movies a lot,” he says of his expat youth. “I saw Jaws on my ninth birthday. A pivotal movie experience for me, which I told to Steven Spielberg, by the way. I didn’t see a lot of movies when I was a kid. We were living in Lebanon and Greece. There was a local theatre that played American movies where we lived, that I used to clean. It was a little janitor job that I had there one summer. So I saw some movies there. They were all part of the Armed Forces magazine route. They weren’t the blockbusters. By the time they got to Greece, they were kind of old news. I remember seeing The Exorcist which I probably shouldn’t have, being that I was too young and I snuck into the theater. That was traumatizing. Even now, I don’t see a lot of movies, and I’m regretful that my movie literacy is somewhat stunted. But I’m trying to catch up on it.”

Meanwhile, one could have trouble catching up with Kinnear’s own growing list of film appearances.

In the early nineties, he had quickly hopped from a legendary stint as the pre-snarky host of cable TV’s Talk Soup to the plum role of Harrison Ford’s little brother in Sabrina. He received an Oscar nomination for his work in As Good As It Gets, and drew raves for You’ve Got Mail, The Matador, Little Miss Sunshine, Nurse Betty and the Bob Crane biopic, Auto Focus. And let’s not forget that he sang and danced with Meryl Streep, not in Mamma Mia, but in Stuck On You.

His career seems to be anything but, uh, intermittent. Today he appears in the Ricky Gervais comedy Ghost Town at the very same multiplex as Flash of Genius.

However, he is humble about his track record.

“Of course, it’s misleading,” he says of the common misconception that he never stops getting jobs in Hollywood. “Probably the cable and the satellite of it all, combined with movies that do come out [makes it look like] there is this non-stop thing happening. I can just tell you without any question that I have big, huge holes. I have a five-year-old and a two-year-old daughter and I’ve gotten to spend an extensive amount of time with them. This year was kind of a crazy year. I did Baby Mama and Ghost Town and [Flash of Genius] and then this Paul Greengrass movie [Green Zone, coming in 2009] and that was a strange cluster of films. Prior to that, I hadn’t worked in like a year. It comes and goes. It ebbs and flows a little bit. A lot of the stuff that I do is supporting. If you look at my career, a lot of it is smaller, supporting stuff. When I did The Gift, I wasn’t spending the same amount of time that Cate Blanchett was. So that’s partly an illusion. But yes, I’ve had some consistency and for that I’m grateful. It’s not like I’m looking for huge windows to not work. I feel like I’m lucky for what has come.”

For many aspiring actors who yearn to be on the big screen, Kinnear’s star-crossed career may seem like the stuff of fairy tales, but he insists it’s more about being grounded.

“I keep waiting to have that epiphany where I wake up one morning and I say that I finally have a handle on this,” he says of his profession. “That I got this whole thing in the bag. That I have it figured out. That just hasn’t happened. I suspect it never does. If it appears to be a fairy tale, then that’s a fairy tale, because I’ve had to work pretty hard and it hasn’t come easy. The truth is that I’ve had plenty of ups and downs. But now I have a better understanding of the technique of acting, the craft of it. It’s always an ongoing process. I didn’t use to feel like an actor. I do now. And I’m very proud to be an actor.”

Meanwhile, he continues to light up the contemporary movie screen, one memorable role at a time, as steady and dependable as Bob Kearn’s windshield wipers.

 

This article originally appeared in Popentertainment.com.

 

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Dermot Mulroney

This Hollywood survivor tells us how he survived Southeast Asia while making his flick, Trade of Innocents.

Take a look at Dermot Mulroney’s IMDb. Holy crap, it goes on for miles. It may not have occurred to you until this very moment, but this cat has worked steadily in the movies since Reagan was President. Go ahead, name somebody famous – yep, he’s worked with them: Julia Roberts. Paul Newman. Leonardo DiCaprio. Jane Fonda. Steve Buschemi. Even Emilio Estevez.

For three decades, he has brought his own gravelly gravity to film, often cast as the Crackerjack prize in a romcom, or a determined suburban dad (in Gracie), or a no-count like Dirty Steve in Young Guns, but he is never the same character twice. Ever.

Granted, he’s had every opportunity to phone it in and coast on his steady in-demandness, but he doesn’t play that game.
“I try to be real good every time I take on a role,” he tells me. “That’s what’s half the fun.”

Dermot Mulroney Trade of Innocents

Even when that fun is no fun at all, like the subject matter of one of his recent projects, Trade of Innocents. In it, he plays a human trafficking investigator in Southeast Asia. Heavy drama for sure, but another battle won for the brave actor, who again courageously stumbles into unknown territory.

“I have to admit that at first I didn’t know anything about child sex slavery,” he says. “So I looked into it right away and recognized what kind of massive problem it is. It blew me away. When I saw the script, I knew I had to do it.”

Directed by Christopher Bessette (of The Enemy God and the documentary Niagara: Thunder of the Waters), the film deals with the engine of guilt, and how it drives the characters in ways that will not let them return to Start.

It co-stars Oscar-winner Mira Sorvino, playing Mulroney’s wife, whose character is grieving for the loss of her own young daughter under a similar devastating consequence.

Dermot Mulroney Trade of Innocents

“She’s one of our finest actors,” he says of Sorvino. “And on top of that, she’s been around the world with the UN and other organizations.”

True that: she was named as Goodwill Ambassador to combat human trafficking for the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC). Coincidence? We think not.

The haunting film won “Best of the Fest” at the Breckenridge Festival of Film and Best Picture winner at the International Christian Visual Media Festival. The Huffington Post called it “unflinching” but “with a glimmer of hope.”

“There are so few films that have touched on this,” Mulroney says. “It almost has pop appeal, but it couldn’t be darker material. It’s a strange and effective combination.”

The steamy jungle of Thailand was only the next career layover in a series of globetrots. Previously, he was in icy Canada filming the The Grey.

“I finished shooting The Grey in February 2012 and went right away to Thailand finishing this movie. Back-to-back days in between shooting those two movies. We were based in Vancouver, British Columbia but the scenes of the storm and the plane wreck were in Smithers, British Columbia. That’s 595 miles north of Vancouver. I went from one extreme to another: 35 degrees below zero in British Columbia and then to Thailand where we are easily shooting in 100 degrees, 105. It’s half the fun to have wild experiences like that.”

He’s also a man on the road earning a living for his new family (he has two young daughters), with long jags away from home.

“Thank goodness for Skype,” he says.

Dermot Mulroney Trade of Innocents

Mulroney came of age in Alexandria, Virginia, and attended Northwestern University, graduating in 1985. He started working as an actor in Hollywood almost immediately after that, first in melodramatic TV movies (The Drug Knot, Sins of Innocence). It wasn’t long before Young Guns (1988) and Longtime Companion (1989) placed him higher on the go-to list, and he was immersed in a lifetime of steady work. It’s an actor’s dream, but not a dream that he conjured from the beginning.

“I was so dedicated to the idea that having a shot as an actor in Hollywood was impossible,” he says. “My Plan A was to learn film and to hopefully become a cameraman or cinematographer. I was taking acting classes, but I was also studying film, so I was learning how to pull cable and load film and be involved in making movies. And it happened anyway.”

His turn as Michael in the 1997 smash hit My Best Friend’s Wedding established him as the romantic leading man: handsome, yes, but also grounded and smart. The funny, ironic script won millions of repeat fans and accomplished two tasks: it knocked the romantic comedy on its ass while showing that Mulroney could be that guy’s guy who women love. It was the anti-rom-com.

“That’s what was genius about that movie,” he says. “That’s why it’s had the life it’s had. It was exactly the opposite of what you thought it was going to be. That’s so hard to do in the movies. Sometimes the simplest idea is the best.

“She doesn’t get the guy. It’s that classic, classic portrait of the sad clown, and yet you’re looking at Julia Roberts! I watched it again about two years ago, and I couldn’t believe how dark and edgy it was. It has qualities that you’ve never seen in any other movie. It was really smart.”

A long-time companion of independent, small films, Mulroney has also lent his talents to such gems as the now-classic surreal comedy Living in Oblivion (“It sticks around. It sticks in your head.”) and the acclaimed 2001 sleeper hit Lovely & Amazing. In addition, he’s made memorable TV appearances on Friends (as Rachel’s nemesis) and recently on New Girl (as an older love interest).

“It’s always changing,” he says of his career. “I’m definitely in a great place now. I was also in a great place when I started. But I had ebbs and flows. I’ve had creativity block and opportunity. These things are never the same.”

Good to hear, Derm! Your acting roles may always vary, but don’t you ever change.

Photos courtesy of Monterey Media Inc.

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Alicia Witt

Alicia Witt has been steadily holding on to her day job – that of an extremely successful working actor – until she can make real her dream job: that of singer-songwriter. That goal is becoming ever more realized now that she has debuted her self-titled EP and its well-received first single, “Anyway.”

“Making my own music has been a dream of mine for my entire life,” she confesses to me from her home in LA. “Three years ago, I finally just started doing it. All of the sudden, there were all these songs, and the more I write, the more come out. I can’t compare this time to any other time in my life because I feel that there was something missing in all the years before that.”

This new completeness – this wholeness – can be considered closure on all those “missing” years, which she attempted to fulfill with gigs on television and in movies.

In fact, you’ll recognize this redheaded stunner from any number of obscure little projects, such as The Sopranos, Friday Night Lights, Law and Order, Cybill, Ally McBeal, Twin Peaks, and even That’s Incredible. You may have also seen her in films like Dune, Four Rooms and Mr. Holland’s Opus.

However, like a good deal of art, the joy of creativity had sprung from the depths of pain and heartache.

“[The single] ‘Anyway,’ came about at the end of a really toxic relationship,” she says. “I started writing the song when things were really bad, with the understanding that the relationship was over. Still, I was trying to figure out why it had ended and why it had happened in the first place; how I could get myself into a place in my life where I was okay with being in a situation like that. And as I was writing the song, I was like, ‘I don’t really care anymore. It doesn’t matter. It’s over. There is no point in figuring out why or how.’”

The how and the why may not matter, but to Witt, the truth always does.

“There is not anything in the song that isn’t true,” she says. “In writing my own songs, even if I feel that it’s not something specific that happened to me, which this one is, I always want the words to be true. I’ll never put a lyric in because it rhymes or it fits. I would rather spend a really long time agonizing over the right lyrics so that it works with the music but also means what I wanted it to mean.”

The subject of the song, who shall remain nameless, is long gone, but the memories linger on (and some of them not so bad).

“We’re not in touch anymore,” she says of her former love. “I guess if he heard it, he would recognize the scenario. But some really great things can come out of breakups. I’m really grateful for the relationship for many reasons. I think everything happens for a reason. It’s so cool to be able to turn something like that into a song.”

Witt’s distinctive take on her newfound creative path reflects other aspects of her unique life, including her unusual career, education and even her taste in music.

“When I was growing up, I was kind of weird musically,” she says. “I loved the big band era more than anything. It was almost like I was born in 1941. I know all of those lyrics and singers. And I love Nat King Cole and songwriters like George Gershwin and Cole Porter. There was actually a radio station back home that I was a little obsessed with, [big-band format] WNEB. I listened to that station morning, noon and night.

“My mom listened to a lot of the sixties-style stuff, like the early Beatles. It wasn’t until I was much older, a teenager, that I started appreciating The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. There were some current pop songs that I loved, like ‘Total Eclipse of the Heart.’ For the most part, I was listening to big band music. I also loved piano-driven singer-songwriters like Elton John and Billy Joel and even Barry Manilow. I do think he’s a great songwriter.”

Before her eventual move to LA as a teenager, Witt was home-schooled in Worcester, Massachusetts by her parents, both of whom were teachers. Fun fact: her mom was once listed in The Guinness Book of World Records as having the longest hair in the world, at twelve feet (and she wore it in an updo).

“Home schooling was definitely better in some ways,” she says, “because my parents’ philosophy was that they wanted their kids to explore whatever they were most interested in at any given time. I studied classical piano very seriously. I didn’t have any particular curriculum to stick to. It wasn’t a regimented kind of education where we studied history and math and geography every day. It was more like I would find a chapter in a history book that interested me and I would read that for a week. We didn’t have tests. It was really unconventional, and I did know that. At that time, home schooling was not done nearly as much as it is today.”

Her TV debut, at age five, was on the ABC series That’s Incredible, where she – incredibly – recited Shakespeare. The nation responded by exclaiming, “That’s incredible!”

“It was my first time in front of an audience,” she recalls. “I can still remember the feeling I had the moment the audience responded to something that I had done. I was sort of astounded. I was doing a scene from Romeo and Juliet, with the host, John Davidson, as Romeo. He had his little pocket Shakespeare book that he was reading from. I remember that he had a long-stemmed rose that he was going to give me as part of the reading. At one point, he went to give me the rose, and he asked me if Romeo gave Juliet a rose and I said no, it wasn’t in the play. And so he tossed it over his shoulder.”

Among those watching this broadcast were film director David Lynch’s people, who were having a heck of a time casting a certain child character for his upcoming Dune movie adaption.

She says, “They had difficulty casting the role of a five-year-old who could speak in an incredibly adept way. [The character’s] mother had drunk this magic potion, the Water of Life. It gave the daughter all of this knowledge that she wasn’t supposed to have. The casting director thought that because I could read Shakespeare, I must be able to do this. I went to New York for the casting. It was like a dream. It was the first time that I realized that acting was a viable career option. I always loved acting, but I didn’t know that it was a possibility. I knew from that point on that I wanted to do that for the rest of my life. Before that, I thought I was going to be a painter and have a farm and run a restaurant and be a governess.”

She worked with Lynch again in Twin Peaks, his enormously successful foray into weekly television. The series baffled and confounded the country, but hooked millions of obsessed fans.

“David had actually written a part for me because we worked together on Dune,” Witt says. “My mother had gotten in touch with him when we moved to LA. At that time, I was basically trying to get an agent. I wasn’t a child actor. I just did that one film at age seven. [My character on Twin Peaks] played the piano; I’m still not exactly sure why she was dressed in a princess outfit and wearing a tiara. I didn’t really watch TV much, but I was excited to get the work with David.”

Despite her lack of attention to television, she had spent a lot time on it if not in front of it. By the mid-nineties, she had landed a regular role on the Cybill Shepherd sitcom, Cybill, playing the star’s quirky, cynical daughter.

“That was the first job I had that allowed me to quit my day job as a pianist at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel,” Witt says. “It was a very, very, very big deal for me. I will always remember the day I got the part. I had gone through all these auditions and then there was a network test. There were all these people in suits sitting around staring at me. I had gone in and done my scenes the same way I had done them in the past five auditions. It was the final round, so basically I was either going to get it or not get it. I walked out of there thinking, ‘well, I did my best.’ About thirty seconds later, I was walking to my car and I heard a voice behind me call my name and it was Cybill. She was walking toward me with a few of the producers behind her and she said, ‘Congratulations, honey, you’ve got it! I just wanted to tell you!’ I screamed so loud. I called all my friends!”

The highly regarded series was also a chance for her to display her musical chops (while playing “Chopsticks!”).

She recalls, “There was a piano on the set, and I don’t think it ever came up in meetings that I played the piano. When we were doing rehearsals for the pilot, they figured I might as well be playing the piano, because it was there. They worked out a little skit where I started out playing this complicated Mendelssohn piece, and then Cybill walks in and I started playing ‘Chopsticks.’”

There were exceptions to her little-or-no-TV rule; for instance, she was already a fan of the heavily-music-packedcomedy-drama Ally McBeal before she was cast in the show.

“I was really excited to be on it and that came about because I was a huge Ally McBeal fan,” she says. “It was one of the only times that I genuinely felt star struck. There have only been a few shows in my life that I have watched religiously. I’m much more into watching movies than I am television. I wanted to make sure I was home every Monday night to watch it. I was obsessed with it.”

She also became hooked after the fact, like when she became a Sopranos fan after she landed the role as a film exec who “helps” Christopher (Michael Imperioli) with his screenplay.

“I didn’t watch The Sopranos until I was on it,” she says, “I went back and watched it and became addicted. The experience was great. I felt like I was making a movie. There was a great crew and there was plenty of time to do as many takes as we needed. It was a very different process [than what I was used to with previous shows]. I realized that TV was changing a lot. It felt like shooting scenes in a movie. The lighting was beautiful and the acting was realistic and the writing was among the best I’ve ever read. I loved Michael Imperioli so much. He is really, really magical to work with.”

Movies figured into her career as well. She was part of a number of successful films post-Dune, including the classic Mr. Holland’s Opus, about the life and career of a high-school music teacher, starring Richard Dreyfuss.

She says, “I had a special connection to that film because it was not just about music, but it was about teachers. There was so much in it that my dad had gone through, even though my dad wasn’t a music teacher; he was a science teacher. To me, it was more about teachers than it was about music, specifically. I was just excited to get to work with Richard Dreyfuss, who I think is a great actor. He was really nurturing to me but he never talked down. He really encouraged me and made me feel very welcome. After he was nominated for an Oscar for that role, he took everyone in the cast and crew out to dinner. He reserved a restaurant for the whole bunch of us. He made a speech thanking us, saying that he would not have been nominated without us.”

Witt’s current TV project is Friday Night Lights, the acclaimed series that will air its final season this year. Here, she continues her streak of playing unusual characters in high-quality shows.

“I play basically white trash, which is really fun,” she says. “My character had a kid when she was in high school. She’s now in her thirties and she has a fifteen-year-old daughter. She is not the most responsible mother in the world, to say the least. She really tries her best but she makes some really messed-up judgment calls. She doesn’t think anything of having random guys come out of her bedroom early in the morning when her daughter is getting ready for school. She dresses way age-inappropriate. She has a really good heart, but she makes some questionable decisions. I completely loved playing her.

“I could not be prouder to be a part of [Friday Night Lights]. I’ve never worked on anything like it before. They have three cameras shooting at once. There is not really any blocking or rehearsal. There is an energy of complete realism about it that I don’t think it can be compared to anything, not even the more realistic type of film. It’s not even documentary style; it’s like these cameras are just placed around, capturing moments in people’s lives. As an actor, you don’t even know where the camera is going to be because it moves around from take to take. You almost feel like there are no cameras. It’s completely brilliant. And there is so much improvising that happens. I mean, obviously there are unbelievable scripts that we work from but half the time the directors say, okay, just ignore the words and say whatever you want. I can’t stress enough how incredible the lack of continuity is. It’s so free. I think it really shows up in the work. You don’t feel like you’re watching actors.”

However, we will continue to watch Witt as she takes us down more fascinating, unpredictable roads, involving both her music and acting.

“I can’t believe it, not even today,” she says as she looks back at her acting career and looks forward to her singing career. “It’s such an incredible blessing. It’s a privilege to be able to do what I love for a living. I never, ever take that for granted or stop being amazed by it.”

 

This article originally ran in Popentertainment.com.